Jack Linden Office Hours – January 7th 2010
[2010/01/07 10:59] Driftwood Miles: Hi there Dirk
[2010/01/07 11:00] Dirk Klees: I hope everyone rezzed for me, i don’t want to sit on someone 
Just shout if i do 
[2010/01/07 11:01] Alexxa Despres: Hi Ya Charlene 
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[2010/01/07 11:01] Marianne McCann: Hope the guest of honor shows up
[2010/01/07 11:01] Marianne McCann grins
[2010/01/07 11:01] Marianne McCann: Hey Charlene
[2010/01/07 11:01] Charlene Trudeau: hiya
[2010/01/07 11:01] Sarah Nerd: He’s online
[2010/01/07 11:01] Marianne McCann: That’s a good sign, then
[2010/01/07 11:01] Timo Daehlie: hiya
[2010/01/07 11:01] Marianne McCann: Hey Timo
[2010/01/07 11:01] Dytska Vieria: Hi Timo
[2010/01/07 11:01] Jack Linden: hello everyone
[2010/01/07 11:01] Dirk Klees: Hi Jack ㋡
[2010/01/07 11:01] Timo Daehlie: 
[2010/01/07 11:01] Equinox Pinion: maybe making the price post
[2010/01/07 11:02] IM: Motor Loon: Me too
[2010/01/07 11:02] Sarah Nerd: Whats up Timo?
[2010/01/07 11:02] Jack Linden: happy new year!!
[2010/01/07 11:02] Charlene Trudeau: hiya, Jack
[2010/01/07 11:02] LisaDeanna Zhora: Welcome Jac. Happy New year!
[2010/01/07 11:02] Equinox Pinion: hi jack, Happy New Year
[2010/01/07 11:02] Dytska Vieria: Hi Jack!
[2010/01/07 11:02] Alexxa Despres: Hey Ciaran
[2010/01/07 11:02] Dirk Klees: Happy New Year!
[2010/01/07 11:02] LisaDeanna Zhora: Jack, even
[2010/01/07 11:02] Timo Daehlie: not much Saar
[2010/01/07 11:02] Driftwood Miles: thats not Jack, Jack is an elderly lady
[2010/01/07 11:02] Questar Utu waves.
[2010/01/07 11:02] Alexxa Despres: Hi Ya Jack..happy 2010
[2010/01/07 11:02] Marianne McCann: Speak of the devil
[2010/01/07 11:02] Ciaran Laval: Hi Alexxa
[2010/01/07 11:02] Marianne McCann smiles
[2010/01/07 11:02] Zoha Boa: wow jack; you must have a great holiday; you are reborn
[2010/01/07 11:02] Driftwood Miles: Hi there Ciaran HNY to you
[2010/01/07 11:02] Jack Linden: my house is pretty much buried in snow, it really has been a white christmas
[2010/01/07 11:02] Ciaran Laval: You too Drift
[2010/01/07 11:02] Charlene Trudeau: like a phoenix ;P
[2010/01/07 11:02] Marianne McCann: Hey Qie
[2010/01/07 11:03] Qie Niangao: hi Mari, all.
[2010/01/07 11:03] Ardy Lay: I just got my first real snow today. About 4″ so far.
[2010/01/07 11:03] LisaDeanna Zhora: yeah, thats jack… he must have got his inventory wiped out on that last maintenance
[2010/01/07 11:03] Marianne McCann snickers
[2010/01/07 11:03] Jack Linden: right, so.. who wants to kick us off?
[2010/01/07 11:03] LisaDeanna Zhora: come here.. Ill kick ya
[2010/01/07 11:03] Mojito Sorbet: I have a Q about auctions and abandoned land
[2010/01/07 11:03] Jack Linden: hehe Lisa
[2010/01/07 11:03] Zoha Boa raises hands
[2010/01/07 11:03] Equinox Pinion: prices for 2010?
[2010/01/07 11:03] IM: Motor Loon: Im there
[2010/01/07 11:03] Sarah Nerd shakes fist in anger
[2010/01/07 11:03] LisaDeanna Zhora:
[2010/01/07 11:03] Ardy Lay: How is the new hardware working?
[2010/01/07 11:03] Jack Linden: Mojito, go for it
[2010/01/07 11:03] Mojito Sorbet: Ok.
[2010/01/07 11:03] Marianne McCann: Jack, kudos to the moles for recent work on the SLRR and elsewhere.
[2010/01/07 11:04] LisaDeanna Zhora: Hi Motor
[2010/01/07 11:04] Mojito Sorbet: Two adjacent sims on mainland. A person holding 512,m in the SE corner of one abandoned it
[2010/01/07 11:04] Melody Regent: Jack I have to say, I like you as a man a little more. I wont sit here thinking of oatmeal cookies
[2010/01/07 11:04] Mojito Sorbet: Just before Xmas
[2010/01/07 11:04] IM: Trouble Streeter: ty
[2010/01/07 11:04] Jack Linden: hey Sarah.. why the shake of the fist?
[2010/01/07 11:04] LisaDeanna Zhora: ouch
[2010/01/07 11:04] Mojito Sorbet: The people who own what is on either side would like to buy it,
[2010/01/07 11:04] Qie Niangao nods in agreement: Michael and the Moles have been very productive.
[2010/01/07 11:04] Mojito Sorbet: to maintain a wlaking corridor between the two sims
[2010/01/07 11:04] Sarah Nerd: Just giving you crap, really I have nothing to bitch about today.
[2010/01/07 11:05] Jack Linden:
[2010/01/07 11:05] Mojito Sorbet: It does not quite meet the criteris for buying an abandoned bit, as neither pewrson surrounds it
[2010/01/07 11:05] Jack Linden: ah i see Mojito.. have you spoken to Guy Linden about it?
[2010/01/07 11:05] Mojito Sorbet: It ios exactly tight in the SE corner of n of the sims
[2010/01/07 11:05] Mojito Sorbet: No.
[2010/01/07 11:05] Jack Linden: I would suggest you start there
[2010/01/07 11:05] Mojito Sorbet: The people involved are all asleep now, so I came here to find out what they should do.
[2010/01/07 11:05] Jack Linden: He will be able to help I’m sure
[2010/01/07 11:06] Mojito Sorbet: Ok, thank you
[2010/01/07 11:06] Mojito Sorbet: They should IM him?
[2010/01/07 11:06] IM: Motor Loon: brb… putting hot cocao on
[2010/01/07 11:06] IM: Trouble Streeter: kk
[2010/01/07 11:06] Jack Linden: Yes.. i will also let him know to expect a ping
[2010/01/07 11:06] Mojito Sorbet: Ok. The two sims involved are Milarepa, and the one just to the West of it
[2010/01/07 11:07] Mojito Sorbet: I will inform the Milarepa administrator
[2010/01/07 11:07] Qie Niangao: Chodron looks to be the one to the west
[2010/01/07 11:07] Mojito Sorbet: Yes, that is the one
[2010/01/07 11:07] Jack Linden: re. Michael and the DPW.. yeah they have really stepped up the last couple of months – lots of good stuff going on
[2010/01/07 11:07] Mojito Sorbet: 512m in the SE corner of Chodron is the plot in question
[2010/01/07 11:08] Equinox Pinion: Jack, when will you announce the new prices
[2010/01/07 11:08] IM: Trouble Streeter: good god. I know Mojito, she will talk Jacks’s ear off to death for an hour not stopping on this one single topic.
[2010/01/07 11:08] IM: Trouble Streeter: smart woman, but GAH!
[2010/01/07 11:08] Marianne McCann: Yes, especially heartening to see the roads and rail lines being built or fixed. Finally seeing some work on a fix it of mine from April ’08, too
[2010/01/07 11:08] Marianne McCann grins
[2010/01/07 11:09] Jack Linden: Equinox.. we’re hoping to blog about that (basically about the year ahead) soon, certainly before the end of January. We’re talking about that now
[2010/01/07 11:09] Equinox Pinion: thanks
[2010/01/07 11:09] Jack Linden: I know everyone wants some stability and need to know well ahead of time
[2010/01/07 11:10] Zoha Boa: whatever you decide i hope you will not cahgne your mind in mai or june; that did hurt the most lasst year
[2010/01/07 11:10] Melody Regent: We are waiting to hear from you so that we can plan our business model for the year. The longer you wait, the less money you make off me and I know countless others. So the sooner you let us know the plans, the better for sure
[2010/01/07 11:10] Charlene Trudeau: how soon will the removal of the remainng class 4′s be complete?
[2010/01/07 11:10] LisaDeanna Zhora: is it possibale to notify everyone ( like you all do with events ) when prices change through emails?
[2010/01/07 11:10] Jack Linden: Agreed Melody.
[2010-01-07 11:10:38] Jack Linden: Agreed Melody.
[2010-01-07 11:11:09] Jack Linden: Charlene, pretty soon. I think some have already migrated but it’s an ongoing process.
[2010-01-07 11:11:29] Charlene Trudeau: I have two that are just kicking me sideways
[2010-01-07 11:11:33] Charlene Trudeau: soo cool
[2010-01-07 11:11:38] Ardy Lay: How is the new hardware working? Are you running 8 full regions on a new host now?
[2010-01-07 11:11:54] Jack Linden: we’ve been managing hardware between colos as well, to better serve the grid. the ops team have been really busy
[2010-01-07 11:12:12] Melody Regent: Are all class 4s now gone?
[2010-01-07 11:12:42] Jack Linden: The newer hardware is performing fine Ardy.. we found a couple of issues during testing but those were resolved
[2010-01-07 11:12:46] Jack Linden: Not yet Melody
[2010-01-07 11:12:57] Melody Regent: What is the eta for completion on those?
[2010-01-07 11:13:57] Jack Linden: I don’t have one Melody. We want to do it as quickly as we can obviously, but we also have to swap some capacity around
[2010-01-07 11:14:27] Dirk Klees: What sort of prices will be affected by the changes? The Purchase, the tiers, or both? And will they change for every product, or just for homesteads?
[2010-01-07 11:15:19] Jack Linden: Dirk, I wasn’t implying there were any changes.. I was just saying that we want to be in a position to be clear on what is coming up (even if that something is ‘no change’) so that everyone can plan
[2010-01-07 11:15:53] Charlene Trudeau: in other words, he can’t say til they put a blog out on it later in the month
[2010-01-07 11:15:59] Equinox Pinion: any news on the script limits?
[2010-01-07 11:16:02] Jack Linden: hehe thanks Charlene
[2010-01-07 11:16:05] Charlene Trudeau winks at Jack
[2010-01-07 11:16:32] Melody Regent: Jack, when you announcement about pricing. Will that be for the full year or will/should we expect some other announcemnt later in the year? If you announce pricing, we would like to know that is the final word for the year
[2010-01-07 11:16:35] Jack Linden: Equinox.. still rolling forward.. there will be a Viewer RC soon that includes the first script load info
[2010-01-07 11:16:58] Equinox Pinion: great!
[2010-01-07 11:17:00] Jack Linden: It will include a measure of the load for the land you own in a region (parcel to region level counts)
[2010-01-07 11:17:18] Dirk Klees: If there’s any change up, i would rather see the purchase prices raising than the tiers
[2010-01-07 11:17:19] Jack Linden: It will also include a count of URLs used, as script URLs are a part of the load
[2010-01-07 11:17:23] Sophi Humby: hi
[2010-01-07 11:17:55] Ciaran Laval: February I think Babbage said it might be available as RC
[2010-01-07 11:18:06] LisaDeanna Zhora: that wouldnt be much fair to someone that wants ONE sim.. that would make land barons richer
[2010-01-07 11:18:19] Dytska Vieria: Incidently, Babbage posted in http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3895 that there is a fix pending for mono script problems.
[2010-01-07 11:18:21] Jack Linden: Yes Ciaran.. it’ll be in an RC soon
[2010-01-07 11:18:33] Qie Niangao: Jack, the perennial plea: When can we expect renewed progress on removing microparcel extortion? Specifically, can we clean up the shit left behind by Luke Termagant (“Gold Coins”) and Maxx Arkin, for starters?
[2010-01-07 11:18:35] Zoha Boa: the purchase of a sim is not the cost lisa; the monthly cost is the problem for most people
[2010-01-07 11:18:47] Qie Niangao: I hate to keep bugging you about this, but believe me, it’s getting at least as tiring a subject for us as it is for you.
[2010-01-07 11:18:51] Timo Daehlie: for land barons too
[2010-01-07 11:19:00] Charlene Trudeau: pardon, Lisa? You’d rather see your monthly fees go up than an initial invest? you don’t ever want your long term payments to be higher than a one time fee
[2010-01-07 11:19:04] Bau Ur: ah, sorry, you had not rezzed.
[2010-01-07 11:19:06] Bau Ur: Forgive me.
[2010-01-07 11:19:18] LisaDeanna Zhora: thats what I was gettin at Zoha
[2010-01-07 11:19:29] Jack Linden: Qie.. I’m not sure where we are with those specifics, and I wouldn’t generally comment on individuals.. but I will talk to the team
[2010-01-07 11:19:36] Jack Linden: I don’t have any new news though, sorry
[2010-01-07 11:19:48] Qie Niangao: Can we expect an update next week?
[2010-01-07 11:19:52] Marianne McCann: ‘sokay, Bau. There’s a seat between Sarah and Charlene, and one next to Dirk
[2010-01-07 11:20:21] Jack Linden: A general update sure.. but I can’t talk about specific customers
[2010-01-07 11:20:54] Ciaran Laval: Well considering it’s only a couple of main nuisances left, a general talk will be about them, but you don’t need to name them Jack
[2010-01-07 11:20:56] Qie Niangao: Right, understood. I’m a little testy just now because I got double-crossed by Cytheria Eagle today. I think Sarah may remember her. :p
[2010-01-07 11:21:11] Sarah Nerd: Sadly I do.
[2010-01-07 11:21:11] Ciaran Laval: Let’s not talk Twinkies
[2010-01-07 11:21:36] Adorabella Felisimo: What are your plans for the port building in the Mosh region in Zindra. When will those parcels be up for auction? Also, the monorail station is now on the outside of the building and not inside as planned. Will you be removing the rail from inside? That building needs some work.
[2010-01-07 11:21:44] Dirk Klees: I think a higher purchase price (as we had earlier 1675USD) would benefit on the long run both parties. Right now i see so many beautiful sims empty, both on mainland and estates
[2010-01-07 11:22:18] Equinox Pinion: you are right dirk….we need more users
[2010-01-07 11:22:29] Arwen Daviau: Agrees with Dirk
[2010-01-07 11:22:48] Jack Linden: Adorabella, I think Blondin and the DPW have that on their slate but I’m not sure when. Last I heard the plan was to run some spaces much like the Luna Mall.. but you should check with Blondin.
[2010-01-07 11:22:59] Bau Ur: well if LL would have better new user orientation and experiences…(fades out, grumbling)
[2010-01-07 11:23:06] Dirk Klees: More users is one thing…but when everyone can afford a sim and we have 50.000 users logged in and everyone sits on his own sim, we have can forget about communities
[2010-01-07 11:23:07] Jack Linden: I agree the building needs some more work
[2010-01-07 11:23:18] Jack Linden: I was there the other day.. needs a few days of mole attention
[2010-01-07 11:23:19] Melody Regent: Higher price to purchase is fine with me. It cost to set up a server and should cost to set up a sim. Howver ongoing cost usually get LESS not more, so tiers should not be as high
[2010-01-07 11:23:33] Marianne McCann: Ya, Adorabella, I was wondering why the monorail did not go into the monorail station. Odd, that
[2010-01-07 11:23:35] Equinox Pinion: it is not the buy price dirk….the monthly costs
[2010-01-07 11:23:49] Melody Regent: but if you raise bying, make ongoing less
[2010-01-07 11:23:50] Melody Regent: Jack, when you announcement about pricing. Will that be for the full year or will/should we expect some other announcemnt later in the year? If you announce pricing, we would like to know that is the final word for the year
[2010-01-07 11:23:54] Ciaran Laval: There’s no need for an increase in purchase price, hardware costs have come down
[2010-01-07 11:23:55] Charlene Trudeau: we can’t afford for monthlies to go up tho
[2010-01-07 11:24:01] Dirk Klees: right…the montly cost should stay where it is or be less, but a higher purchase would prevent an oversaturation
[2010-01-07 11:24:03] Charlene Trudeau: people are having a hard time affording even parcel sizes
[2010-01-07 11:24:14] Charlene Trudeau: the economy ou there in the rl sucks
[2010-01-07 11:24:24] LisaDeanna Zhora: agree ciaran!
[2010-01-07 11:24:31] Sarah Nerd: Id monthly goes up I can see a lot of people getting out.
[2010-01-07 11:24:32] Adorabella Felisimo: thanks
[2010-01-07 11:24:34] Sarah Nerd: if*
[2010-01-07 11:24:39] Driftwood Miles: If peopel are paying their tier for land empty or not how is that oversaturation?
[2010-01-07 11:24:47] Dirk Klees: you can compare it with currency…if Lindens would throw more L$ into the market without need, it would loose its value..the same happens with sims now
[2010-01-07 11:24:48] Driftwood Miles: people
[2010-01-07 11:24:55] Jack Linden: Melody.. if we feel we can commit to the year, we will. But we’re still discussing that.
[2010-01-07 11:25:23] Timo Daehlie: jack is there something that can be done about max prim using border builders on the mainland ?
[2010-01-07 11:25:26] LisaDeanna Zhora: Sarah: that would get rid of alot of “Sim hogs” that can care less
[2010-01-07 11:25:33] LisaDeanna Zhora: well maybe not too
[2010-01-07 11:25:37] Arwen Daviau: One one of my sim 6 out of my 8 tenants have lost their jobs… the economy should be considered with sim pricing and tier
[2010-01-07 11:25:50] Jack Linden: Timo.. not familiar with that issue. Can you drop me more info?
[2010-01-07 11:26:00] Zoha Boa: jACK? how can we plan our business if LL can’t give us FIXED prices for a year ?N
[2010-01-07 11:26:03] Adonis Prinz: I have that questiona s well
[2010-01-07 11:26:04] Timo Daehlie: sure .. i send you some pics
[2010-01-07 11:26:06] Driftwood Miles: Supply and Demand is what will make decisions
[2010-01-07 11:26:07] Charlene Trudeau: exactly, Arwen, which is why an up front being changed is fine but a raise in tier would be really bad
[2010-01-07 11:26:12] Sarah Nerd: Prices hikes killed me. I bought into open space sims big time, they jacked the price and I went under.
[2010-01-07 11:26:22] Adonis Prinz: why doesn’t the SL pricies run in parity with Real world?
[2010-01-07 11:26:29] Marianne McCann: Ya, Arwen. I had to cut back my holding quite a bit this year due to my own RL job situation
[2010-01-07 11:26:40] Jack Linden: Zoha, I agree it would be best if we can do that. And that is the aim, but as we’re still talking about this I can’t guarantee that we’ll make that long a commitment.
[2010-01-07 11:27:02] Equinox Pinion: how so..dont you have a budget you stick to
[2010-01-07 11:27:14] Zoha Boa: seems that you NEVER can do that, see the Hs story
[2010-01-07 11:28:11] Jack Linden: We have forecasts and budgets like any company Equinox, and we’ve last year to close out. As I said, we absolutely want to be as open and definitive as we can be, well in advance.
[2010-01-07 11:28:36] Melody Regent: Well, if you cant give us a full year of price promises, atleast give us a time line where you will make us aware of the new line. You guys are horrible about give timelines and timelines and stability is what we need. Specially in these uncertain times
[2010-01-07 11:28:39] Dirk Klees: It also would help to fight unserious hobbyist estate owners, buying a used sim for 450-700usd, renting some space out a while, then they dont feel they want to continue or had enough fun, kick their tenants out, getting back their investment of 450-700usd and made no loss on it, keeping the tenants money, and destroy the reputation of private estates. including those, who conduct a serious and honest business behaviour. higher purchase prices would help to prevent such cases more than the prices we have now.
[2010-01-07 11:29:31] Sarah Nerd: Good point Dirk
[2010-01-07 11:29:35] Equinox Pinion: dirk, that has nothing to do with the sim prices from linden, the market makes the used sim prices
[2010-01-07 11:29:39] Jack Linden: stability is key, I totally believe that.
[2010-01-07 11:29:44] Motor Loon: agrees with Dirk
[2010-01-07 11:29:46] Arwen Daviau: excellent point Dirk
[2010-01-07 11:29:50] Melody Regent: Very good point Dirk. I dont think it shuld be as easy to buy in
[2010-01-07 11:29:58] ANASTASIO Docherty: we all here wait for jack?
[2010-01-07 11:30:03] LisaDeanna Zhora: no it doesnt, agreed Equinox
[2010-01-07 11:30:09] Ciaran Laval: Can we stop with the protectionist policies, the market dictates second hand pricing
[2010-01-07 11:30:10] Adorabella Felisimo: ok
[2010-01-07 11:30:11] Dirk Klees: that has a lot to do with the linden prices…if lindens ask for 1675, everyone selling a used sim would naturally be able to ask for more, too
[2010-01-07 11:30:12] Driftwood Miles: and what about honest small estate owners who can afford 1000 however 1675 would be out of their reach?
[2010-01-07 11:30:17] Melody Regent: it also makes the resll on our higher investment more stable as well
[2010-01-07 11:30:27] Sarah Nerd: On the other side you don’t want to make sim ownership impossible for someone that doesn’t want to go through a barron
[2010-01-07 11:30:27] Equinox Pinion: not true dirk
[2010-01-07 11:30:45] Driftwood Miles: smacks of elitism and cartels
[2010-01-07 11:30:53] Dirk Klees: And i guess it serves LL-s reputation as well, when people are not ripped off by unserious landlords as much as they are now
[2010-01-07 11:30:54] Qie Niangao: Not sure it would matter that much: the hobbyists could still flip the land for about what they paid for it… just the numbers are bigger.
[2010-01-07 11:31:01] LisaDeanna Zhora: think thats what I just said a minute ago mel
[2010-01-07 11:31:05] Bau Ur: I come with concern for the bug that allows banned persons to rez objects over a border into land from which they are banned. Is anyone else appalled about this? https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2900
[2010-01-07 11:31:37] Adonis Prinz: wow thats Terrible
[2010-01-07 11:31:39] Bau Ur: I help run a sandbox. We are disgusted with this bug.
[2010-01-07 11:31:40] Motor Loon miss Jacks ol’ lady outfit…
[2010-01-07 11:32:03] Bau Ur: I fel that landowners shuld have much more power over land.
[2010-01-07 11:32:11] Jack Linden: hehe Motor
[2010-01-07 11:32:14] Seattle LeShelle: what about our aim to provide a quality land and community experience fir the average SL user if teir goes up they are the ones affected you lose them you lose the so called middle class of sl.
[2010-01-07 11:33:11] Melody Regent: shoot, I just wish the BANS would stick. Jack, that is a huge and massive issue. People banned, land and estate and it not sticking. Heck, sometimes we cant even TP them home to get them off the sims
[2010-01-07 11:33:28] Driftwood Miles: That is a huge issue Jack
[2010-01-07 11:33:29] Equinox Pinion: why do you make people who run a community gateway sim pay for the sim? they do the work for you and have to pay for it?
[2010-01-07 11:33:30] Bau Ur: Yes.
[2010-01-07 11:33:31] Arwen Daviau: If you look at the amount of land that is available, sims or plots.. The smarter decision is not to flood the market with more.
[2010-01-07 11:33:44] Bau Ur: The ban capacity is always maxed out in our sandboxes.
[2010-01-07 11:33:46] Driftwood Miles: bigger than huge…it’s….well….BIGGGG
[2010-01-07 11:33:48] mania Frentis: hallo
[2010-01-07 11:34:10] Dirk Klees agrees with Arwen
[2010-01-07 11:34:34] Jack Linden: Equinos, we are now starting to look at affiliate schemes that reward traffic, but with CGs – the owners also get a big bump in traffic to their experience – so both sides benefit a lot
[2010-01-07 11:34:34] sevi Cuttita: Halllooooo
[2010-01-07 11:34:54] Ciaran Laval: Doesn’t having a community Gateway give you a big advertising boost for your own wares?
[2010-01-07 11:35:16] Equinox Pinion: well..i wouldnt do it for traffic…i would do it for keeping newbies in sl..but i am not willing to pay for the im
[2010-01-07 11:35:26] Equinox Pinion: i dont need traffic
[2010-01-07 11:35:32] Zoha Boa: reward trafic to mainland (premium accounts); as said during our meeting a few weeks ago..we DON’T want to promote premium (mainland) membership as a private estate owner
[2010-01-07 11:35:44] Dirk Klees: If everyone would get a community gateway for free, everyone would have one – back to problem nr. 1…oversaturation
[2010-01-07 11:36:03] Arwen Daviau: To Bau comment, the largest issue with ban lists is alt.. if the sim could ban on an IP level .. we would not runout of room
[2010-01-07 11:36:11] Equinox Pinion: dirk…we need these gateways…too many people lave sl
[2010-01-07 11:36:22] Ariana Kassner agrees
[2010-01-07 11:36:24] Bau Ur: Also I believe that land owners ought to be able to control what is seen on their land. If land owners could make everything outside their own borders invisible, it woudl take a load off the servers and off the client viewers of people on the properties, and would ameliorate the problem of ugly neighbors and objectionable content. In fact you should be able to make your neighbors not only invisible but functinally nonexistent…don’t hear their noises, don’t receive objects or view particles originating from their property. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13272
[2010-01-07 11:37:04] Dirk Klees: People are also leaving for other reasons, not only due to the lack of CG’s
[2010-01-07 11:37:05] Jack Linden: Zoha, one thing that has been suggested is that we let Premium members use their Tier on estate land too, such that it would could against the fees the estate owner pays – in which case there would be an good incentive to promote Premiums
[2010-01-07 11:37:07] Bau Ur: WHen an alt is banned and ceased to be listed as an SL resident, is the person’s name automatically removed from the parcel ban lists? I think it sits there taking up room.
[2010-01-07 11:37:27] Equinox Pinion: but to work for linden 24/7 and have to pay for it is not something i would even consider
[2010-01-07 11:37:27] Motor Loon: Aint that what a private sim in the middle of the sea is all about Bau?
[2010-01-07 11:37:33] Driftwood Miles: Now thats a Cookin idea Jack
[2010-01-07 11:37:51] Zoha Boa: that’s a great idea
[2010-01-07 11:37:55] Charlene Trudeau: I’d love that
[2010-01-07 11:37:59] Charlene Trudeau: where do we vote?
[2010-01-07 11:38:02] Charlene Trudeau:
[2010-01-07 11:38:17] Equinox Pinion: wait zoha..how much would the estat get compensated for it?
[2010-01-07 11:38:21] Jack Linden: It’s an interesting idea isn’t it. It would also let Premium members coming through Linden Homes have a more natural flow to rental estates
[2010-01-07 11:38:22] Adonis Prinz: You guys should ban by IP Address right Jack and name of AV also?
[2010-01-07 11:38:25] Melody Regent: Speaking of premiums, you have talked about offering more bennies to a premium member. Will you be announcing more benefits soon as well. Right now, there is little advantage to having one.
[2010-01-07 11:38:25] Alexxa Despres: Jack that would also help newbs be less confused about where they can buy land and use thata llowance
[2010-01-07 11:38:28] Alexxa Despres: allowance*
[2010-01-07 11:38:31] Driftwood Miles: all those in favour say “AYE” ………………… “AYE” ….Motion Carried
[2010-01-07 11:38:43] Sarah Nerd: aye
[2010-01-07 11:38:51] Jack Linden: Equinox.. it’s just an idea, nothing more than that
[2010-01-07 11:39:01] Equinox Pinion: or would we just have to give away 512sm
[2010-01-07 11:39:04] Alexxa Despres: <<ad a lot to eat over Chistmas… I can vote twice aye aye
[2010-01-07 11:39:11] Sarah Nerd: lol
[2010-01-07 11:39:16] Driftwood Miles: it’s now policy Jack…sorry
[2010-01-07 11:39:19] Jack Linden: Melody.. ‘bennies’?
[2010-01-07 11:39:27] Ciaran Laval: Would that mean you could work towards not charging people who deed estate land the wrong way
[2010-01-07 11:39:30] Melody Regent: BENEFITS
[2010-01-07 11:39:34] Motor Loon grins
[2010-01-07 11:39:38] Melody Regent: (sorry caps)
[2010-01-07 11:39:43] Charlene Trudeau: more group space for premiums! more and more and more group space to those who have tons of tier fees ;P
[2010-01-07 11:39:53] Sarah Nerd: HAven’t you heard of friends with Bennies Jack?
[2010-01-07 11:39:55] Jack Linden: Yes, we do want to add bennies. But I’ve no details that i can give out on that as yet
[2010-01-07 11:40:02] Jack Linden: Friends with bennies?
[2010-01-07 11:40:10] Seattle LeShelle: lol
[2010-01-07 11:40:10] Trouble Streeter perks.
[2010-01-07 11:40:14] Alexxa Despres: LOL Sarah
[2010-01-07 11:40:16] Adorabella Felisimo: Jack, Bay City needs a full sim of open Linden land for hosting special events. Can you add a region there?
[2010-01-07 11:40:16] Adonis Prinz: Jack man
[2010-01-07 11:40:24] Adonis Prinz: lol never heard of that
[2010-01-07 11:40:29] Jack Linden: I’m thinking Sarah has better friends than I do.
[2010-01-07 11:40:40] Sarah Nerd laughs
[2010-01-07 11:40:44] LisaDeanna Zhora: lol
[2010-01-07 11:40:45] Alexxa Despres: LMAO
[2010-01-07 11:40:48] Adonis Prinz: Is Happy hes Sarahs Friend
[2010-01-07 11:40:53] Zoha Boa: I want a free full prim sim too ack for our events !!
[2010-01-07 11:40:59] Melody Regent: When will we hear more about the additional benefits?
[2010-01-07 11:41:24] Jack Linden: Adorabella, that’s a cool idea. We do have some islands.. the problem is that it’s primarily geared for sailing rather than more land oriented stuff
[2010-01-07 11:41:25] Adonis Prinz: Well with that new Health care bill a lot are going to get another job and stuff
[2010-01-07 11:41:30] LisaDeanna Zhora: we want a full sim too jack… for.. well.. just to have it
[2010-01-07 11:41:36] Adonis Prinz: its going to be shaky in next year has to be
[2010-01-07 11:41:40] Ciaran Laval: Me too!
[2010-01-07 11:41:46] LisaDeanna Zhora: )
[2010-01-07 11:41:53] Equinox Pinion: put me on that list too
[2010-01-07 11:41:56] Motor Loon: put a giant raft on there jack… problem solved
[2010-01-07 11:41:58] Zoha Boa: and while you are doing that , maybe you can add a dozen ocean sims around it too for free
[2010-01-07 11:42:02] LisaDeanna Zhora: hahaa .. added
[2010-01-07 11:42:07] Adorabella Felisimo: that would be fine Jack
[2010-01-07 11:42:08] Jack Linden: hehe so let me get this straight, you all want a free region.
[2010-01-07 11:42:16] Sarah Nerd: AYE!
[2010-01-07 11:42:17] Motor Loon: oh … ok
[2010-01-07 11:42:18] LisaDeanna Zhora: yeah!
[2010-01-07 11:42:19] Driftwood Miles: no jack!!
[2010-01-07 11:42:23] Driftwood Miles: <<wants two
[2010-01-07 11:42:25] Adonis Prinz: Discounted
[2010-01-07 11:42:30] Dirk Klees signs up
[2010-01-07 11:42:31] LisaDeanna Zhora: FULL REGION and nto a HS or OS
[2010-01-07 11:42:32] Adonis Prinz: as a Benefit
[2010-01-07 11:42:45] Timo Daehlie: give me some free tier instead
[2010-01-07 11:42:45] Jack Linden: oh driftwood, now you;re just being greedy!
[2010-01-07 11:42:46] Charlene Trudeau: lol
[2010-01-07 11:42:48] Sarah Nerd: Free regions!? This is Jacks best office meeting ever~
[2010-01-07 11:42:54] Zoha Boa: lol
[2010-01-07 11:42:58] Arwen Daviau: lol
[2010-01-07 11:42:58] LisaDeanna Zhora: lol drift
[2010-01-07 11:42:59] Charlene Trudeau: hehehe
[2010-01-07 11:43:07] Equinox Pinion: any news about the community partnership program…how many people applied for it and how may are work in progress
[2010-01-07 11:43:08] Marianne McCann: “You get a region, and you get a region…”
[2010-01-07 11:43:17] Alexxa Despres: LOL Mari
[2010-01-07 11:43:20] Jack Linden: Adorabella, best thing to do is to talk to Michael Linden.. see what he thinks; but I’m not sure that a land region would go into Blake Sea
[2010-01-07 11:43:21] Adorabella Felisimo: lol
[2010-01-07 11:43:24] Driftwood Miles: I know, it’s a life of Ginsters Pies and Ben and Jerry’s that does it 
[2010-01-07 11:43:27] Adonis Prinz: Man Im just going to say it,, Jack I want a Job man Hire me please I will take all the criticism for you, for 1 free Region
[2010-01-07 11:43:32] LisaDeanna Zhora: you give a full region… Ill sign up prmmie today! (as long as you give it today)
[2010-01-07 11:43:37] Alexxa Despres: LOL Drift
[2010-01-07 11:44:04] Jack Linden: Equinox, a few have applied.. one particularly that we met with today.
[2010-01-07 11:44:08] Ardy Lay: Weird… Went from wanting to raise prices to keep out the hobbiests to begging for free regions.
[2010-01-07 11:44:27] Jack Linden: I expect we’ll have 2 or 3 new ones signed up in Q1
[2010-01-07 11:44:30] Ariana Kassner: I’ve applied myself months ago….they said they werent hiring in my area lol. I didnt quite understand that.
[2010-01-07 11:44:30] Alexxa Despres: LOL so true Ardy….wonders how those ‘free’ sims will affect oversaturation ;-P
[2010-01-07 11:44:36] LisaDeanna Zhora: the prices we pay, ardy
[2010-01-07 11:44:40] Equinox Pinion: ok thanks
[2010-01-07 11:44:43] Ciaran Laval: You should have a special events region, or an arena or something like that and charge 20 bucks a day for it or something reasonable
[2010-01-07 11:44:46] Jack Linden: hehe Adonis
[2010-01-07 11:44:47] Sarah Nerd: If we get free regions Jack is the best friend with Bennies ever
[2010-01-07 11:45:08] Adonis Prinz: dude im serious is the thing
[2010-01-07 11:45:08] Milano Ferrentino: And speaking of tier, has there been any rethinking of the 95-to-125 USD hike for homesteads schedule for July? It will likely cause another crash in the land market as happened in October 2008.
[2010-01-07 11:45:14] Adonis Prinz: lol
[2010-01-07 11:45:21] Jack Linden: Ciaran, it’s a little known factoid that we do actually rent out Mainland regions
[2010-01-07 11:45:26] Motor Loon sneaks a bite of Jacks sandwich
[2010-01-07 11:45:28] Marianne McCann: I’ll work for pay!
[2010-01-07 11:45:29] Jack Linden: You’ll find info in the wiki
[2010-01-07 11:45:30] Melody Regent: They will announce pricing changes before the end of the month Milano
[2010-01-07 11:45:39] Ciaran Laval: Yeah but it’s more than 20 bucks a day
[2010-01-07 11:45:41] Jack Linden: The regions around Platinum (6 in all) are able to be rented
[2010-01-07 11:45:46] Jack Linden: No, it’s less
[2010-01-07 11:45:57] Driftwood Miles: I think homestead tier should go up in price to $85
[2010-01-07 11:46:13] Ciaran Laval: I must have lost my maths head then, it looked pricey when I checked before
[2010-01-07 11:46:21] Alexxa Despres: Too much eggnog, Drift!
[2010-01-07 11:46:29] Jack Linden: I think it’s about L4000 per day, or L3000 for a non profit
[2010-01-07 11:46:37] Melody Regent: make it higher to buy a OS but like $10usd a month for it. Since OS are nearly useless
[2010-01-07 11:46:45] Driftwood Miles: Eggnog is my friend with bennies
[2010-01-07 11:46:49] LisaDeanna Zhora: isnt that around 20?
[2010-01-07 11:46:53] Alexxa Despres: :-p !
[2010-01-07 11:46:59] Adonis Prinz: Ok Jack I have a question what can you share to all of us , if you were telling us to stay here and keep investing give us more comfort your ideas projections what yu guys are going to do, to spur more paying players also
[2010-01-07 11:47:18] Adonis Prinz: instead of us venting i want to hear what new changes coming and your immediate plans to help us and fix stuff
[2010-01-07 11:47:41] Bau Ur: I would like to hear some kind of reassurance about the banned-people-rezzing-stuff bug.
[2010-01-07 11:47:52] Ciaran Laval: Ah private regions 50 bucks a day, that must be what I was thinking of Jack
[2010-01-07 11:48:40] Charlene Trudeau: OS tier should go *down* imo, 75 is just far far too much for the minor functionality they serve
[2010-01-07 11:48:48] Arwen Daviau: Agrees with Adonis.. i too would like to hear the LL business model for 2010.. would help with planning my budget
[2010-01-07 11:48:49] Melody Regent: Adonis, they will not announce policy/price changes here, that is what the blog announcement will be for, that Jaack has promised us before the end of the month
[2010-01-07 11:49:12] Jack Linden: Adonis, that’s a good question.. but it’s best that announcements like that go out through the blog. I can tell you that Q1 will be about fully launching Linden Homes, presuming the Beta continues to be successful.. We obviously have a bunch of land fixes to deal with from 1.38 server onwards..
[2010-01-07 11:49:18] Charlene Trudeau: just getting my last .02 in before they deal with that blog post ;P
[2010-01-07 11:49:36] Jack Linden: ..we also want to finally provide detailed data for landowners, something we’ve been wanting to do for a long while now
[2010-01-07 11:49:57] Jack Linden: ..and script resource info, leading to script limits, by end of 2010
[2010-01-07 11:50:02] Dytska Vieria: Jack, are there any more invites to the beta Linden Homes?
[2010-01-07 11:50:28] LisaDeanna Zhora: hey you all.. thats three things there… dont over load the lindens… )
[2010-01-07 11:50:31] Sarah Nerd: Anyone have a LM to those? I still haven’t checked them out
[2010-01-07 11:50:40] Adonis Prinz: Brb Jack my gf just brought me food and is yellin at me
[2010-01-07 11:50:42] Jack Linden: Dytska, we might do another wave of invites, yes. The Beta, to be honest, has been incredibly smooth so there haven’t been many issues to resolve
[2010-01-07 11:50:47] Adonis Prinz: Dang SL lol
[2010-01-07 11:50:57] Ciaran Laval: Ah just end the beta then Jack and give us our homes!
[2010-01-07 11:51:04] Jack Linden: So we may be able to launch it sooner than expected
[2010-01-07 11:51:07] Charlene Trudeau: so I should free up my alts’ land credits just in case?
[2010-01-07 11:51:15] Charlene Trudeau: I’d love to get one of them in just to play
[2010-01-07 11:51:15] Dytska Vieria wants one
[2010-01-07 11:51:26] Jack Linden: hehe Ciaran
[2010-01-07 11:51:29] Melody Regent: I tried to get one and was told I was not invited
[2010-01-07 11:51:37] Melody Regent: lol, keep the land barrons out
[2010-01-07 11:51:49] Arwen Daviau: lol
[2010-01-07 11:51:57] Dirk Klees: Are you homeless Melody?
[2010-01-07 11:52:08] Jack Linden: Are there any new themes for Linden Homes that you think we should consider?
[2010-01-07 11:52:17] Melody Regent: Doesnt mean I dont want the 512
[2010-01-07 11:52:26] Melody Regent: I pay for the membership, give me the perk
[2010-01-07 11:52:29] Driftwood Miles: Tiki
[2010-01-07 11:52:30] Marianne McCann: Nascera trailer park
[2010-01-07 11:52:33] LisaDeanna Zhora: themes? as in?
[2010-01-07 11:52:34] Marianne McCann winks
[2010-01-07 11:52:35] LisaDeanna Zhora: hot rod yah
[2010-01-07 11:52:37] RE Water World: RE Water World @ MLCC 93, 60, 23 – Hazey Rayna paid L$8000. They now have 8 days, 0 hours, 2 minutes and 48 seconds remaining on their tier.
[2010-01-07 11:52:44] Jack Linden: trailer park?
[2010-01-07 11:52:50] Marianne McCann: kidding
[2010-01-07 11:52:52] Marianne McCann grins
[2010-01-07 11:52:54] Jack Linden:
[2010-01-07 11:52:54] Driftwood Miles: Gippos
[2010-01-07 11:52:56] Melody Regent: yeah Jack, yanno… White trash trailer
[2010-01-07 11:53:06] Opensource Obscure: themes: something cyberpunkish. there is always a target for that
[2010-01-07 11:53:06] Charlene Trudeau: as long as they get prim hungry, you can have all the themes you want, Jack
[2010-01-07 11:53:08] Melody Regent: I am not kidding, we had them and we had a FOREVER waiting list
[2010-01-07 11:53:09] LisaDeanna Zhora: Not a trailer park, there is enough of those around (laggy sims) no need for more
[2010-01-07 11:53:12] Sarah Nerd: I grew up in a traler
[2010-01-07 11:53:14] Dytska Vieria: Igloos, Jack
[2010-01-07 11:53:29] Dirk Klees: Smurf houses
[2010-01-07 11:53:29] Seattle LeShelle: yup trailors, air streams rv’s retro looking
[2010-01-07 11:53:40] Melody Regent: put out a few chickens with the trailers. Prok will be able to get you some
[2010-01-07 11:53:40] Marianne McCann: It would actually be kinda cool
[2010-01-07 11:53:41] Melody Regent:
[2010-01-07 11:53:56] Trouble Streeter twitches at mention of chickens
[2010-01-07 11:54:05] Driftwood Miles: Houseboats
[2010-01-07 11:54:07] Marianne McCann: Maybe something european in feel? cobblestone streets and whatever
[2010-01-07 11:54:13] Dirk Klees: but then, include a free BBQ set
[2010-01-07 11:54:24] Jack Linden: houseboats is a nice idea. i wonder how that would work with so many close togethr
[2010-01-07 11:54:24] Equinox Pinion: pandora homes
[2010-01-07 11:54:26] LisaDeanna Zhora: and a wicker chair too?
[2010-01-07 11:54:27] Jack Linden: *together
[2010-01-07 11:54:44] Melody Regent: same way anything else already works so close
[2010-01-07 11:54:45] Timo Daehlie: visit Amsterdam to see jack
[2010-01-07 11:54:51] Dytska Vieria: Alpine cabins
[2010-01-07 11:54:53] Melody Regent: you ever seen a marrina? They are close
[2010-01-07 11:55:08] Driftwood Miles: it would work I think…be a cool theme
[2010-01-07 11:55:25] Melody Regent: you can do an urban setting with highrises, lots of penthouses
[2010-01-07 11:55:39] Arwen Daviau: Tree houses like a swiss family robbinson theme
[2010-01-07 11:55:43] Charlene Trudeau: here’s something from the concierge group:
[2010-01-07 11:55:44] Charlene Trudeau: [11:53] Daryl Rubble: my question is, What is it they are planning to do with the “Copybotters”
[11:53] Daryl Rubble: It seems like the copybotting is geting worse insted of better
[2010-01-07 11:55:45] Sarah Nerd: Time to get my kids from school. *waves*
[2010-01-07 11:55:50] LisaDeanna Zhora: a zoo theme maybe?
[2010-01-07 11:55:56] Melody Regent: wait… are we doing Lindens job? Give me my 512 and I will give you more
[2010-01-07 11:55:58] Ciaran Laval: Bye Sarah
[2010-01-07 11:56:05] Timo Daehlie: ciao Sarah
[2010-01-07 11:56:06] Jack Linden: hehe Melody
[2010-01-07 11:56:10] Jack Linden: by esarah
[2010-01-07 11:56:11] Driftwood Miles: Bye
[2010-01-07 11:56:12] Arwen Daviau: lol Melody
[2010-01-07 11:56:14] Driftwood Miles: Flintstones
[2010-01-07 11:56:22] Marianne McCann: Charlene – you mean like when Nyx Linden’s avatar was ‘botted during an office hour the other day by another Resident?
[2010-01-07 11:56:28] Dirk Klees: Flintstones sounds cool
[2010-01-07 11:56:30] Ciaran Laval: Jack who can we poke about getting group liabilities turned off by default for the everyone role?
[2010-01-07 11:56:37] Adonis Prinz: ah man Jack what did you do to sarah lol
[2010-01-07 11:56:40] Adonis Prinz: im back
[2010-01-07 11:56:42] Charlene Trudeau: well, yeah, but mostly when they copybot creations and resell
[2010-01-07 11:56:45] Jack Linden: Ciaran, is there a pJira for that?
[2010-01-07 11:56:50] Ciaran Laval: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-378
[2010-01-07 11:56:57] Trouble Streeter goes to vote
[2010-01-07 11:57:05] Charlene Trudeau: sorry, but I’m not too concerned about someone who harrasses a linden, they’ll get immediate repercusions
[2010-01-07 11:57:07] LisaDeanna Zhora: dang, on the ball ther ciaran!
[2010-01-07 11:57:16] Jack Linden: that’s the best way then Ciaran.. getting a good pJira will start the ball rolling
[2010-01-07 11:57:20] Ciaran Laval: lol I was multitasking I’d just found it for someone else
[2010-01-07 11:57:28] Melody Regent: I think we need to say that if someone is caught copybotting, LL should make thier RL info available so we can tar and feather… just say. Mkay
[2010-01-07 11:57:43] Adonis Prinz: lol
[2010-01-07 11:57:56] LisaDeanna Zhora: and whos to tar them mel? lol
[2010-01-07 11:58:03] LisaDeanna Zhora: oh i seeit now
[2010-01-07 11:58:04] LisaDeanna Zhora: nvm
[2010-01-07 11:58:18] Melody Regent: I will, my uncle owns an asphalt factory
[2010-01-07 11:58:22] Melody Regent: I can et a discount
[2010-01-07 11:58:33] LisaDeanna Zhora: hot dogs… Ill join in on that !
[2010-01-07 11:58:35] Qie Niangao: Melody *knows* people.
[2010-01-07 11:58:41] Arwen Daviau: your to kind Meloday i say public hangings, lol
[2010-01-07 11:58:42] Jack Linden: that’s a little spooky
[2010-01-07 11:58:54] Melody Regent: I learned at long time ago, its not What you know, but WHO you know
[2010-01-07 11:59:00] Adonis Prinz: ok so Jack I didnt read blog can you at least tell us,, If you guys are seeing alert here and immediate need to make adjustments in price, policy, Scripts and fast? and are working on it definitely
[2010-01-07 11:59:01] LisaDeanna Zhora: thats to harsh and quick Arwen
[2010-01-07 11:59:10] Charlene Trudeau: which, Jack? copybot is hurting. I know a lot of creators that have or are thinking about just giving up
[2010-01-07 11:59:22] Adonis Prinz: because my crazy gf is trying to get me to play SIMS with her and I cant take that
[2010-01-07 11:59:26] LisaDeanna Zhora: indian style.. unside down and cut a knuckle off each day
[2010-01-07 11:59:32] Charlene Trudeau: to try to protect themselves, clothing, hair, other attachments are being heavily scripted which adds to those script times we want to limit
[2010-01-07 11:59:37] Jack Linden: Adonis, we’ve no plans to change prices.. but we intend to talk about that in a blog post soon
[2010-01-07 11:59:46] Charlene Trudeau: I want mod, no script skirts
[2010-01-07 11:59:50] Charlene Trudeau: and hair
[2010-01-07 11:59:55] Adonis Prinz: hmm ok
[2010-01-07 12:00:06] Charlene Trudeau: I don’t want to steal it but I don’t want to be a walking region killer either
[2010-01-07 12:00:08] Jack Linden: Charlene, the Lab’s stance on copybotting hasn’t changed and we are building better tools to remove copied content
[2010-01-07 12:00:10] Arwen Daviau: i have rp sims we have a big concern about script limits…
[2010-01-07 12:00:10] LisaDeanna Zhora: Jack: what is this DEBUG on the righ click on avatar in ADMIN mode about?
[2010-01-07 12:00:15] Equinox Pinion: jack…did you just give away something lol
[2010-01-07 12:00:17] Adonis Prinz: that I have to agree jack I dont understand when world economy has taking a big plunge
[2010-01-07 12:00:23] Adonis Prinz: with the others
[2010-01-07 12:00:24] Motor Loon: Thats good news Jack
[2010-01-07 12:00:54] Ciaran Laval: Agreed Arwen
[2010-01-07 12:00:56] Arwen Daviau: thats great news jack
[2010-01-07 12:01:02] Jack Linden: Hehe, I was just being clear that when we talk about the year, and what we will (or won’t) do with pricing..
[2010-01-07 12:01:12] Equinox Pinion: sure..sure
[2010-01-07 12:01:17] Jack Linden: ..it isn’t certain that there wil be a change to our previous plans
[2010-01-07 12:01:28] Jack Linden: But as i said, we will talk more about that soon
[2010-01-07 12:01:31] Jack Linden:
[2010-01-07 12:01:36] Equinox Pinion:
[2010-01-07 12:01:39] Adonis Prinz: jack how about a Secondlife Lottyer
[2010-01-07 12:01:41] Adonis Prinz: Lottery
[2010-01-07 12:01:44] Jack Linden: okay lovely people, I have to run.
[2010-01-07 12:01:50] Ciaran Laval: Cheers Jack
[2010-01-07 12:01:50] Qie Niangao: thanks Jack.
[2010-01-07 12:01:51] LisaDeanna Zhora: you didnt get here until 10 after.. so you have 10 moreminutes to go
[2010-01-07 12:01:54] Dirk Klees: Thanks Jack ㋡
[2010-01-07 12:01:59] Arwen Daviau: lol Lisa
[2010-01-07 12:02:01] Jack Linden: have to get to my next meeting.
[2010-01-07 12:02:02] LisaDeanna Zhora:
[2010-01-07 12:02:02] Equinox Pinion: lovely people? what did we do wrong lol
[2010-01-07 12:02:03] Marianne McCann: Gotta scoot too, Have fun, all!
[2010-01-07 12:02:04] Marianne McCann: Bye Bye!!
[2010-01-07 12:02:05] LisaDeanna Zhora: thanks Jack
[2010-01-07 12:02:08] Motor Loon: ok jack… next time wear your dress…
[2010-01-07 12:02:09] Jack Linden: take care everyone, speak next time!
[2010-01-07 12:02:12] Adonis Prinz: haha lisa
[2010-01-07 12:02:14] Melody Regent: Run? Is that how you got ride of the ole lady that ate you?
[2010-01-07 12:02:15] Alvi Halderman: ty Jack cya
[2010-01-07 12:02:15] Equinox Pinion: bye jack…take care!
[2010-01-07 12:02:15] Driftwood Miles: Thank you Jack
[2010-01-07 12:02:16] Arwen Daviau: Thanks Jack
[2010-01-07 12:02:22] Timo Daehlie: ciao Jack !
[2010-01-07 12:02:24] Adonis Prinz: thanks jack
[2010-01-07 12:02:25] Adonis Prinz: later
[2010-01-07 12:02:26] Trouble Streeter: bye jack
[2010-01-07 12:02:28] Talin Sands accepted your inventory offer.
[2010-01-07 12:02:30] Timo Daehlie: and others
[2010-01-07 12:02:32] Motor Loon: okies
[2010-01-07 12:02:36] Arwen Daviau: bye all
[2010-01-07 12:02:39] Dirk Klees: Bye ㋡
[2010-01-07 12:02:44] Melody Regent: bya all, thank you for joining me today
[2010-01-07 12:02:45] Adonis Prinz: I feel more discouraged
[2010-01-07 12:02:46] Driftwood Miles: Bye all
[2010-01-07 12:02:47] Trouble Streeter: time to go walk the streets of NYC some more…
[2010-01-07 12:02:47] Equinox Pinion: bye all
[2010-01-07 12:02:52] Adonis Prinz: I was coming for comfort lol
[2010-01-07 12:03:02] Melody Regent: you came to the wrong meeting Adonis
[2010-01-07 12:03:08] Adonis Prinz: lol haha yah
[2010-01-07 12:03:10] Adonis Prinz: sigh
[2010-01-07 12:03:12] Motor Loon grins
[2010-01-07 12:03:32] Motor Loon slaps Mel’s ass and poofs
[2010-01-07 12:04:01] Melody Regent: damn husband
[2010-01-07 12:04:09] Melody Regent poofs after him